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If you want to lose weight, is a very low-fat plant-based diet the one to pick?

What the experts say

Dean Michael OrnishMD · internal medicine and cardiovascular disease; founder and president, Preventive Medicine Research Institute

A whole-foods plant-based pattern, low in fat and refined carbohydrate, is the pattern to build on.

What it rests onHis stated position, in his own printed reply: fruits, vegetables, whole grains, legumes and soy products in their natural unrefined form, low in fat, low in sugar and low in refined carbohydrate, with the gloss that 'It's the type of protein, fat and carbohydrates that matters.' His own trials measured angiographic stenosis, cardiac events, PSA and cognition rather than weight, so weight loss is not the endpoint he has tested and not the claim he makes.

Source: scientificamerican.com ↗
Christopher D. GardnerPhD · nutrition scientist, Stanford Prevention Research Center

For weight loss in this population it finished third of four, and the lowest-carbohydrate arm won.

What it rests onA TO Z Weight Loss Study, JAMA 7 Mar 2007: 311 overweight and obese nondiabetic premenopausal women randomised to Atkins, Zone, LEARN or Ornish with weekly instruction for two months and ten months of follow-up. Twelve-month weight change: Atkins minus 4.7 kg (95% CI minus 6.3 to minus 3.1), LEARN minus 2.6 kg, Ornish minus 2.2 kg (95% CI minus 3.6 to minus 0.8), Zone minus 1.6 kg, with Atkins secondary metabolic outcomes comparable or more favourable. NIH funded. He has never withdrawn or reinterpreted the primary result, and his own later position is that the gap narrows when both arms are built well (gar-quality-over-macro).

Source: pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov ↗

Overview

This is the whole argument. Gardner's Ornish arm was a commercial diet book assignment with two months of weekly classes, given to healthy overweight premenopausal women and measured on weight at twelve months. Ornish's own trials delivered a supported programme with supervised hours to people with documented coronary disease or prostate cancer and measured stenosis, events, PSA and cognition.

The two are not testing the same intervention, the same population or the same outcome, and reading this as 'his diet lost' would misrepresent both researchers.

Where they agree

Both exclude added sugar and refined grain. Both reject counting calories as the operative lever. Gardner's later position, that diet quality matters more than the macronutrient ratio, is close to Ornish's own 'it's the type that matters'. Gardner is not a critic of Ornish and has published nothing attacking him; the disagreement is between one trial's result and another's, which is the cleanest kind there is.

What would settle it

A trial of the supported Ornish programme, rather than the book, against a well-formulated comparator with genuine equipoise, measured on a hard endpoint over a year or more. Gardner's own equipoise designs (DIETFITS, Keto-Med) are the method; nobody has run one on this programme.

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